🥰 ❣️🙏 Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature | Lex Fridman , Podcast # 482 🥰 ❣️🙏

🥰 ❣️🙏 Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature | Lex Fridman Podcast #482 🥰 ❣️🙏 Lex Fridman, 4.88m subscribers, 49k likes, 2,453,651 views,30 Sept 2025. Lex Fridman Podcast 🥰 ❣️🙏 Pavel Durov is the founder and CEO of Telegram. Thank you for listening ❣️🙏 ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep482-sb ❣️🙏 See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. ❣️🙏 Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/pavel-durov-tr... ❣️🙏 EXTRA FILES FOR EPISODE: If you need captions or videos with audio tracks for clips etc, go here: https://lexfridman.com/pavel-durov-files ❣️🙏 HOW TO SWITCH BETWEEN LANGUAGES: This episode is available in English, Russian, Ukrainian, French, Hindi. To switch between languages on the main episode YouTube video, click: Settings (Gear Icon) ... Audio Track ... Choose Language. ❣️🙏 CONTACT LEX: ❣️🙏 Feedback - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey ❣️🙏 AMA - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama ❣️🙏 Hiring - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring ❣️🙏 Other - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact ❣️🙏 EPISODE LINKS: ❣️🙏 Pavel's Telegram: https://t.me/durov ❣️🙏 Pavel's X: https://x.com/durov ❣️🙏 Telegram: https://telegram.org/ ❣️🙏 Telegram Contests: https://contest.com/ ❣️🙏 SPONSORS: ❣️🙏 To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: Miro: Online collaborative whiteboard platform. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/miro-ep482-sb ❣️🙏 UPLIFT Desk: Standing desks and office ergonomics. ❣️🙏 Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/uplift_desk-... ❣️🙏 Fin: AI agent for customer service. ❣️🙏 Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/fin-ep482-sb ❣️🙏 LMNT: Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. ❣️🙏 Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep482-sb ❣️🙏 Shopify: Sell stuff online. ❣️🙏 Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep48... ❣️🙏 OUTLINE: ❣️🙏 0:00 - Introduction ❣️🙏 3:07 - Philosophy of freedom ❣️🙏 6:15 - No alcohol ❣️🙏 14:20 - No phone ❣️🙏 20:16 - Discipline ❣️🙏 41:28 - Telegram: Lean philosophy, privacy, and geopolitics ❣️🙏 56:50 - Arrest in France ❣️🙏 1:13:01 - Romanian elections ❣️🙏 1:23:56 - Power and corruption ❣️🙏 1:33:29 - Intense education ❣️🙏 1:45:29 - Nikolai Durov ❣️🙏 1:49:58 - Programming and video games ❣️🙏 1:54:11 - VK origins & engineering ❣️🙏 2:11:24 - Hiring a great team ❣️🙏 2:20:40 - Telegram engineering & design ❣️🙏 2:39:42 - Encryption ❣️🙏 2:44:39 - Open source ❣️🙏 2:49:26 - Edward Snowden ❣️🙏 2:51:58 - Intelligence agencies ❣️🙏 2:53:10 - Iran and Russia government pressure ❣️🙏 2:56:19 - Apple ❣️🙏 3:03:16 - Poisoning ❣️🙏 3:35:31 - Money ❣️🙏 3:44:23 - TON ❣️🙏 3:54:13 - Bitcoin ❣️🙏 3:57:12 - Two chairs dilemma ❣️🙏 4:03:52 - Children ❣️🙏 4:15:02 - Father ❣️🙏 4:19:33 - Quantum immortality ❣️🙏 4:26:05 - Kafka 🥰 ❣️🙏 PODCAST LINKS: ❣️🙏 Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast ❣️🙏 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr ❣️🙏 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 ❣️🙏 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ ❣️🙏 Podcast Playlist: • Lex Fridman Podcast ❣️🙏 Clips Channel: / lexclips ❣️🙏 SOCIAL LINKS: ❣️🙏 X: https://x.com/lexfridman ❣️🙏 Instagram: / lexfridman ❣️🙏 TikTok: / lexfridman ❣️🙏 LinkedIn: / lexfridman ❣️🙏 Facebook: / lexfridman ❣️🙏 Patreon: / lexfridman ❣️🙏 Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman ❣️🙏 Reddit: / lexfridman 🥰 ❣️🙏